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In rugby league, it’s quite common to see 2 kickers. They’ll have one kicker set and then another kicker as a passing option if there is too much pressure on the first kicker

Perfect addition to the SquidgeRugby one on the Boks vs Ireland, thanks for sharing!

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A pom thought so. Anyone who thinks kicking should decide the outcome of a rugby game ought to stick with the round ball.

Lions 1971 probably the birth of attacking rugby but for me JPR drop kick was the moment remember balls were like bricks back then and a heavy pitch it was a superb kick and helped the lions

Sorry to burst the bubble, but England didnt bring back drop goals to win tight games - go back to the 1995 rugby world cup mon fre

11:15 I would like to highlight it isn't a "risk free" taking of the game. If Marcus Smith does miss and r92 tap it down or it goes dead, that's no longer a goal line drop out but a 22. A much more advantage situation where racing can actually begin to take back the game.

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Dropped goals are very disheartening for the opposition. Completely agree, they seem like cheap points, but they are daggers in tight games. And refocus wide defenders - if not in the last minute, defences need to crowd the midfield, where generally dropped goals are scored

Being a part of my english friends 3 day celebration makes JW drop kick to win the world cup is the Goat. Also NZ rugby has a greedy style of play and drop goals are 😺 style. Forever keeping us from absolute domination 😂

Let's be honest, we all love a drop goal...

Drop goals are so exciting, just from an entertainment point of view they're just great to watch, so much skill needed and so much uncertainty. England Ireland and Ireland South Africa both ending in last minute drop goals is amazing for rugby viewership

How can you not mention the best ever 5/8th, Steven Larkin's dg v South Africa 1999

Jannie de Beer: "Hold my beer..." 🍻

Naas Botha will be proud. For me, he is still the king of the drop goal.

I see so many end game drop goals missed because the attackers lose possession by over doing the phases trying to get into the perfect position or just bottling. Leinster in the 23 euro final for eg. I love how Frawley just thought i can go from here. Even in the Euro final when he missed (by inches) his next chance came and he didn't think 2ce. I also remember a euro semi in RDS v Clermont and brock james could have won the game but he visible hid so as to avoid taking the chance.

I don't really see a reason for this to be a South African or English-style thing for any other reason than tradition. Imagine a team with the attack of 2023 France or the potential height of this Razor All Blacks but with the ability to score drop goals when parked outside the 22. Using tactical kicking in combination with incredible phase-play to get to the 22, and instead of wasting resources batting away at a defence in the zone it's the easiest to defend, you take the droppie. In practice this kinda inverts the standard way of saving energy by never attacking out of your own half. Instead, be able to attack at any time, create the front foot, kick well, keep momentum, get to the 22, drop it and repeat. I sense this could become something razor wants to implement, if only we had that calibre of goal kickers.. If Ntamack wasn't injured this feels like something he'd do in 2023, but I'm not very thrilled of what I've seen from France's new attack coach. Although same could be said for Ireland in 2020-21 so maybe it's the start of something incredible. Anyways great video! Will be interesting to see how this evolves.

How about a video on missed drop goals that lost games?

The thing about DG is, you get something out of the attack... lets say you attack until you reach 22... going for the try can be risky, the opponents can turnover the ball and the whole attack was for nothing... but the DG at least gives you something out of that attack, if you feel like the attack is going nowhere... That plus scoreboard pressure

Great video and analysis as always. I wouldn’t be too concerned with the critics, it’s easy to shout **** from the cheap seats. You’re in the fight, putting it out there, making a video. That needs to be respected and admired!

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Where have you been Mr Wibble great to have you back!

After Larkham's extra-time DG against the Boks in the RWC99 SF, the next most famous DG in Australian rugby was scored by prop Matt Dunning playing for the NSW Waratahs in a Super Rugby match. Right at the end of the match, the 'tahs had a penalty advantage and had reached the stage of wanting to kill the play to take the penalty kick to the corner to have a shot at getting over with a lineout-maul effort. Dunning pulled the trigger to kill the play by taking a shot at a drop goal. He struck it rather better than anyone expected - even himself - and it sailed through the sticks. The problem was that NSW had been 4 points behind and Dunning's DG ended the match for them with a 1 point loss.

Great video! Would be interested to know what the average number of (non-drop goal) points per entry into opponents 22, vs average rate of dropgoall success from just outside opponents 22 (eg for England)... ie does it make sense to only go for drop goals, even if you are not in a situation like England were i RWC v Argentina where it was going to be hard to score tries.

Sidenote that is only tangentially relevant - I still find it genuinely insane that André Watson talks in interviews about how he knew Australia were offside but didn't want to give a penalty. Like it's bad enough thinking that, but I can't imagine admitting that!

The Return of the Drop Goal - I was waiting for this for so long and that is exactly why SA lost vs Ireland last week 13/7/24. On the SA side no one thought of it because 24-22 was not enough.

The more I see kholbe “slip” the more it looks an awful lot like he is diving

How many games lost with drop kicks when time is up, the pressure at that stage is enormous…

Of course you can do something about drop goals defend them.

Didn't realise England "brought the drop goal back".

England deserved that win against Ireland. However... That wasn't a clutch drop goal. There was no pressure on Marcus Smith to get that drop goal. The referee was playing advantage for an infringement in front of the post. If he missed wouldn't there be a penalty in front of the posts.

I've been thinking about this for about a year, glad to see this video. Doesn't have to be in-depth, deep, analysis to be good analysis.

A setup I haven't seen attempted yet is taking advantage of the fact that every Test side usually has more than one capable kicker on the field at once. Imagine having one kicker with the typical setup behind the ruck, baiting the defence, then passing to a second option that's left open.

There's another strategic advantage worth mentioning. missing the drop goal attempt results in a 22 dropout -> possession comes right back and your attack restarts

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Agree with the concept. Anyone interested in zero warning DGs could do worse than look at some old vids of Barry John, Although he was a "one off" practice will achieve great results.

Wjat a brilliant video. Thanks man 👍

It’s cruel to only give us a couple of videos a year. You’re far too lazy! I’ll take what I can get though! 👍👍

The Boks, are the Boks are why its back😂 Why they so happily have played no possession rugby is because nobody would do this, a free meal ticket for years with Rassie and Nienaber. Curious how it got figured out after Nienaber went to Lein... Wait... That's in Ireland right? 🤣 Jig is up... Just in time for Brown to step in.

New Wibble video = Day made. Genuinely flippen happy to see this on my feed. Cheers mate.

Drop goals equates to free points in my opinion and as we saw in the SA v Ireland test allowing a team to get a deserved victory. Ireland was the better team throughout the match and Frawley's drop goals sealed a hard-fought win. A very handy thing to have in your toolkit as a team. Got to say I was very impressed with England during their tour of New Zealand. Borthwick is doing a good job in getting them to be a competitive team again which can only be a good thing for International rugby. Thanks for making my cold, windy and wet Cape Town winters evening a little bit better!

Sextons in Paris in the rain after 42 phases to me is the GOAT...the French knew it was coming but couldn't stop it.

Excellent video !! Well worth doing !👍👍👍👍👍

18:00 I Like the line on it as a counter to the goal-line drop out rule change, which goes fro, a scrum 5 to taking the ball back from near halfway. Not what Frawley did on Saturday, but it you can set one phase and immediately ping it over, granted, it’s not the full 5, but it keeps the scoreboard moving. Cannot help but think that being held up by NZ and losing yet another qf narrowly will be playing on this side.

Ooh I love this video. So detailed. I'm old enough to remember 99, and I remember just being so deflated as a fan! On the deception point, I think Ford was talking on a recent Love of Rugby pod about how you should go to the pocket as late as possible for that reason. (Ford ❤). This is probably bullshit, but I think part of what made Wilkinson such a deadly drop goal kicker was his willingness to miss. It sounds odd but he would miss them but it would never stop him from going for more. Whereas I think some players might find it hard to keep doing it if you've missed 3 in a row cos you look like a twat! (Plus he could do snap drop goals of either foot, which is silly really) Love your vids.

Great video, thanks Wibble! I feel that Ireland's learning was from the '23QF against NZ - they strung together so many phases and came up short again a NZ defence. I felt they recognised that a SA defence is even more restrictive and that they should play the odds going for goal as opposed to piecing together a multi-phase attack for the win (or gamble on a penalty).

Of all the English drop goals at the WC, my guilty pleasure is Faz's against Fiji in the quarter final. Right place, right time. Care called the play perfectly. Love this video from you, mate. It's no coincidence that all of England's fly-halves are now kicking brilliant drop goals.

Think the goal line drop out opens up more DG opportunities. Also would love to see a rise in Drop Goals being followed be a rise in fake Drop Goal plays, I.e. drop goal set up to cross field kick

The Boks vs Ireland this weekend is a testament to this. Two absolutely clutch kicks. Two hammer blows to the Boks.

What a great video. Super Informative. Opened my eyes to the value of the drop-goal! Keep up the good work 😊